Was disappointed to wake up today.

topic posted Fri, October 30, 2009 - 11:49 AM by  Rachel
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I'm not suicidal, but I also don't want to do anything right now, and I don't like anything in my life today. I am isolating myself because everyone's making me angry for little things, so I've holed up in my room. I want to do my school work, but so far haven't be able to concentrate. Been on Celexa for just over a week now, and off Efffexor for a few days...feeling like crap, but at least I don't actively want to die. I guess that's something. At least my psychiatrist gave me a compliment yesterday...he said that I'm able to keep getting pretty good grades despite the difficulties I have shows that I have something more than most of my colleagues. It was nice to get that validation.
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  • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

    Fri, October 30, 2009 - 2:10 PM
    Rachel - he just moved you from Effexor to Celexa...in a FEW DAYS? I'm no shrink, but having come off Effexor by myself, that's pretty tough. If you don't mind my asking was Effexor helping? I found it to be QUITE helpful, and am now on a metabolite of Effexor called Pristiq and it's extremely helpful. The best thing I have ever taken. It has really helped my mental clarity and memory - or at least restored some of it!

    I had to come off Effexor b/c I don't have insurance. The amazing thing about my shrink (after 16 years together) is that she is now seeing me pro bono and providing me with enough samples to keep me alive. Ok, so I DID put at least one of her kids through college in the better years (!), but still. One freakin' amazing woman. Anyhow, I was very careful about coming off Eff because that's what it felt like to even miss one dose: F (Eff!). You may be feeling the results of coming off that drug. While it saved my life - hell, gave me a NEW one, I experienced EXTREME irritation once off of it, so it's the withdrawal from the drug that's got you on edge, I'll bet. Try to ride it out. Take vitamins and make sure you are eating and sleeping properly. In other words, give yourself a break, girl! You have shloads on your plate and are managing to not have anything to fall off. Right now, it's like you are at a buffet, your plate loaded up, and you have to get back to your seat without anything falling off - oh, and did I mention that you have to walk through shark infested waters to get there? And they are HUNGRY little buggers...

    You're doing great. But it's ok to have days where you hate everything and everyone - I think that's called life/PMS/fill in the blank. I'm not minimizing your experience by any stretch, just saying that you can and will get through this. You are SO STRONG. Shut up, yes you are? How do I know? Because anyone who has gotten to this tribe IS strong. Even turning on the computer is a victory some days. Revel in that. Win the Nobel Prize by curing cancer tomorrow. Today YOU are the most important, k?
  • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

    Fri, October 30, 2009 - 2:31 PM
    Aw, that was a really sweet post! Thank you so much! Actually, I guess I wasn't clear...they took 2 weeks to wean me off of the Effexor, but I have only been completely off of it for a few days, and on the full dose of Celexa for a week. So no more Eff (F indeed!) and the Celexa hasn't fully kicked in. I know what you mean about coming off of it - I took it first years ago, and had to stop taking it cold turkey (from 150mg) because I was between school and a job with no insurance. I couldn't afford to go to the doctor and get a lower dose, and as you know you can't cut those in half. It was horrible. My mom was also in the ICU at that time, so basically I constantly wanted to drive my car into oncoming traffic for a couple weeks. Very scary experience. That said, I really do like Effexor when I'm on it, but I don't have insurance either, and it's $200 a month for the generic, whereas Celexa generic is $4 at Walmart. Since grad school loans factor in NOTHING for health care in their budgeting, this is a key difference!

    Your doctor sounds AWESOME. You must be old friends, having put her kid through school? Do you mean financially or were you a teacher? Anyway, I'm really glad you can get the samples. Depression sucks enough without the compounding factor of meds costing an arm and a leg. Not to open up a political can of worms, but this is why I'm for public health care...and also why I want to be a policy analyst. I promise someday I'll try to better mental health policy for all of us! "Try" being the key word. :-p We all deserve it.
  • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

    Fri, October 30, 2009 - 3:08 PM
    So many days like that I wouldn't even try to count them. If anyone out there as a really good way out, I like to know as much as Rachel. That being said, I should also say for whatever it's worth, "You are not alone!"

    Patrick
  • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

    Sun, November 1, 2009 - 11:17 AM
    I sometimes try to think of a dragon...can you really fight the dragon, and is that even a smart idea? There's no way to win, you will just die needlessly, in 10 seconds. Instead I keep trying to make friends with it...if it's on MY side, maybe it can protect and help me, instead of kill me.

    That analogy might not make sense to anyone else, but it helps me. I'm not saying give up and be depressed; just that sometimes the struggle to feel what you're not feeling is more exhausting than accepting and working with what you've got.
    • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

      Sun, November 1, 2009 - 1:45 PM
      Yes the analogy makes sense. Unforgently it's wrong! As my ex used to say, "that voice in your head telling you to give up. That voice IS NOT your friend!"
      My advice for what it worth. Don't fight the dragon, fight the squirrel. Find something smaller to take on, we'll work on the Dragon tomorrow.



      Something on a different line. You subject title "Disappointed to wake up" made me think. Sometimes my dreams when I'm sleeping on so much better than my real life, that I really just want to stay there. Does anyone else have that happen to them?

      Patrick
  • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

    Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:12 PM
    I usually don't remember my dreams. I'm not sure if this a good or bad thing...if they were good, I'm sure it would be lovely, but like you said it would just make it harder to get up. I don't know why other people seem to be able to remember them...something about my lack of visual memory, I think.
    • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

      Tue, November 3, 2009 - 8:15 PM
      I did'nt remember my dreams, and then I set out to remember them-
      I can remember them days later, and I remember some dreams
      from years ago. When you first wake up, try to remember
      your dream - there's a good chance you'll remember a bit of it-
      remember that bit, and try to use that bit as a stepping off place
      to remember more of the dream as you shower and wake up.
      *may or may not work for you, but works for me usually)

      Fighting the dragon:
      Yes, that can be helpful, and it can be done;
      to use the dragon's power to fight for what you need to,
      both internally and externally - althogh not always easily
      done, it IS possible....

      I would disagree slightly - the voice in your head can
      often be wrong, so it's good to deal with it in a
      mindful/careful manner, but sometimes it's right
      and shouldn't be rejected immediately - I think it
      depends on the kinds of voices you're hearing,
      and where those voices originate from...
      (if it's overzealous, super-critical parents or similar,
      defenetly reject them outright)....
      • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

        Wed, November 4, 2009 - 8:37 AM
        Yes, my "you're not acceptable" dad-voice kind of sucks. I understand what you're saying...there's a difference between the intuitive inner voice and the Negative Nancy voice...I've gotten better at telling the difference, although that doesn't always mean I ignore the right one. :-/ Still working on it!
        • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

          Wed, November 4, 2009 - 9:40 AM
          This might sound lame, but it has worked for me on occasion - plenty of occasions.

          When I hear my depressed voice (alarmingly like that of my mother), I tell it/her that "I dont have time for you now." It often goes away! I know that seems like a "DUH!" kind of thing, but it has worked for me. I acknowledge it, but put it away until "later" and, thanks to a wonderful spirit of procrastination, later never comes.
          • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

            Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:10 AM
            I called my voice "dr jekel" and when I hear him he says specific things
            "I hate stuff"
            "I suck"
            etc...

            Naming him has the same effect Darla's 'not now' trick has. It's like "oh Doc, I don't want to talk to you" and sometimes it shuts up long enough for me to feel better somehow... bath, sleep, eat (often lacking when he shows up, surprise surprise)... other days he's overbearing... but it's good to recognize it for what it is. Lies.
          • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

            Sat, November 7, 2009 - 8:46 PM
            I've found lots of ways to directly discount the voice by
            recognizing it's origin, and being able to discount that
            person's "opinion" by reminding myself
            that they were a mentally ill adult, or annoying jerk
            classmate - helps *USUSALLY*
            then there are days that all those voices gang up on me
            and what they say sounds (and feels) exactly right and true.

            <<"put it away until "later" and thanks to a wonderful
            spirit of procrastination, later never comes...">>

            Wow, Mama D, gimme some of that stuff...that's amazing!
            bottle it, sell it, and retire... :)
  • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

    Thu, November 5, 2009 - 8:17 AM
    Ooh, good ideas. Thanks. I should really start addressing it that way, as a separate person...because, really, it kind of is. I know that I am not the person it tells me I am. I should give it my dad's voice, maybe. Then I can see it's a sad broken record that has no substance.

    thanks :-)
    • Re: Was disappointed to wake up today.

      Thu, November 5, 2009 - 7:50 PM
      Very well put, Rachel: a sad broken record that has no substance. I really like that. This is a GREAT thread, you guys!! Thanks! I love this place and the fact that we are all pulling for each other.

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